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Quelqu'un peut il SVP m'expliquer ce qu'est un " FOC AUTOVIREUR" ,
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Un foc autovireur est un foc dont le point d'ecoute est en general relie par un chariot sur un rail courbe (qui fait le rayon du point de tire au point d'amure du foc)
Lorsque tu vires de bord, le chariot passe automatiquement d'un bord sur l'autre et ton foc se retrouve sur la nouvelle amure sans que tu aies eu à t'en occuper..

Sur HYLAS (voir le site: www.hylas.ws) la trinquette est ainsi montee en autovireuse, ce qui est tres pratique lorsqu'en solitaire je dois virer de bord et m'occuper en même temps de la barre, du genois et de la grand voile..
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pouvez vous me faire parvenir un mode d emploi pour un foc autovireur monté sur un kelt 707
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une question de terminologie :pour les batos c'est batovireur ,c'est le bato qui tourne autour du phoque ,et quelque fois le phoque autour du bato ,
je ne vais pas rentrer dans les problemes de moeurs mais ces histoires de foc ça me parait bizarre ,souvent sur les voiliers il n'y a que des équipages masculins et comme il n'y a plus de tonneaux à part dans le carnet de francisation ,je me pose des questions ??
quelqu'un d'éclairé pourait-il me renseigner ,parce qu'il parait que c'est de la que viendrait l'expression .
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le 707 c'est de la vieille fabrication de chez boeing peu etre ont-ils un plan coté pour installé cest appareil
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On trouve actuellement un foc auto-vireur notamment sur les voiliers Etap et Hanse.
Un petit problème toutefois, c'est que le foc est nécesairement de relativement faible surface et, dans cette version, ces bateaux sont très paresseux dans le petit temps.
Quant à en installer un sur un bateau qui n'a pas été prévu pour cela, il se retrouvera très sous-toilé, d'autant plus que le Kelt 707 a été fabriqué à une époque où les architectes privilégiaient un grand triangle avant.
D'autre part, il faudrait trouver un rail courbe de rayon et de longueur appropriés, car ils sont réalisés spécifiquement pour chaque modèle sur le marché. Enfin, le problème est celui de la fixation sur un pont qui n'a pas été conçu pour subir des efforts verticaux de ce genre.
Je crains donc que ce ne soit pas un très bon projet.
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rebonsoir,
mais dans le cas d'une trinquette sur étai largable, où la bordure est inférieure à la distance entre le point d'amure et le pied du mat; put-on penser à un système auto-vireur?
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Pourquoi pas? Mais le problème reste le même pour le rail et sa fixation.
Une solution est la trinquette bômée, avec un seul point d'ancrage pour une poulie de renvoi d'écoute en position centrale sur le pont. Si par chance, il y a de l'autre côté une cloison sur laquelle reprendre l'effort.
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